"Sexualidad" con Marcela Palos, María Fernanda Gómez, Jorge Rincón y Miguel Melgarejo

[00:00:39] Bienvenidos al PANEL Virtual que vamos a hablar hablando sobre un tema. Es todavía tabú, dos mil veintiuno y sigue siendo tabú y más en aspectos

[00:00:48] o en medios católicos, rodada, repente no le entramos tanto el tema aunque gracias a Dios ya que a veces hay más cosas de te quiero el cuerpo pero bueno como que de repente

[00:00:58] es que no se puede decir que es un tema difícil de entrarle aquí vamos a platicar esto que gracias por estar con nosotros, Marcela Fernanda Jorge y Miguel, en la certeza de tenerlos por aquí. Mucho de gracias a tipo de invitación. Felices estar acá.

[00:01:14] Ayer. Pero sabrita ahorita vamos a irentrando los temas pero como es costumbre vamos a empezar con el pie derecho si les parece poniendo no se imprescencia el señor de mover. Perfecto. No me redepadre del hijo del Espíritu Santo. Amen. Señor Jesús.

[00:01:31] Pero pedir en este momento que estamos aquí reunidos no solo nosotros cinco sino con tantas de cenas de miles de católicos que están viviendo el simposio. Un focado en la Iglesia Domestika y ahora que estamos hoys y en empezando la año de la familia.

[00:01:48] Te pedimos que en manza tu espíritu Santo para que ir está platicada en este pan el para que podamos aprender por un lado el papel de la sexualidad en matrimonio y también te es bueno.

[00:01:59] Se emocionarnos con todo lo que puede ser dentro de tu plan la sexualidad en pues para nosotros como personas y en un matrimonio y también que nos dengan a investigar un poquito más, formarnos y también de aplicar los varios de estos temas para poder realmente vivir una sexualidad plena.

[00:02:21] Pero hemos todo esto por la intencición de nuestro centro patrano San Juan Diego en el nombre del padre de dijo y del Espíritu Santo. Amen. Amen.

[00:02:31] Hoy, en pues bueno, a lo mejor algunos de los que están viendo o muchos de los que están bien yo ya ya los conocen o conocen algunos de ustedes pero los pues van.

[00:02:38] Deserburó ahí algunos despistados que no los ubican y aunque ya abajo pueden ver las páginas las resociales de nuestros cuatro panelistas. En la todavía no se metan estamos en el panel, esperen esta la noche o este lunes.

[00:02:52] Ahora, taluzbapir que se presenten cae quien por favor, puntualmente tratando que dura en unos y un minuto porque ya se que tienen mucho górrículo ni y estos se puede extender.

[00:03:02] Vamos a leer puntualmente donde están, de dónde son y qué están haciendo cuál es su apóstolado, ministerio, lugar en la iglesia donde les están dando. Empezamos así como lo vemos para no hacer los bolas máscelas y ahora contigo.

[00:03:16] Entonces, en marse palos tengo un proyecto que se llama Amarez, me dedico a dar cursos y conferencias sobre efectividad y sexualidad enfocada en la infortales y miento de las virtudes humanas.

[00:03:25] Especificamente la virtuela castidate ya tengo rato con esto desde 2003 ha sido muy padre pues compartir contanta banda y también yo crecer en estos aspectos al final de cuentas cuando te dedicas a esto el primero que crecer es tu y luego lo puedes dar a los demás.

[00:03:39] Entonces pues felices estar aquí. Para los que no reconocen ese asento, ¿verdad? Dinoso donde se iba a por secasa. Pero es totalmente llevado, ence, voy a verily totalmente norteña de compartir con la banda. Ahora le gracias para acompañar un marse la Fernanda.

[00:03:59] Yo soy Fergo, estoy en Guadalajara y después yo tenemos un instituto que se llama Amarez al máximo y nos dedicamos a promover la telegel cuerpo.

[00:04:09] Tenemos cursos para jóvenes adultos que no hemos una especialidad entre el gel cuerpo y también tengo soy mamá, tengo dosijas. Tengo una mania de cinco años y otra de cuatro y tengo un block de mamá. Pusqueriendo por mover un poquito.

[00:04:25] También la telegel cuerpo a través de ese blog pero mucho más allá ¿no? Gracias para confine a nos hacer Jorge. Ya me contigo. Me dedicado también a hablar de los efectos no sigos de la pornografía en mente, corazón y mundo.

[00:05:06] Entonces también eso es algo que me mueve. Ahora les pagaréis y gracias para acompañarnos Jorge. Bien. ¿Qué tal? Para los que no me conocen, Miguel me algarijo. Soy Chilango de nacimiento, oriundo de la basilica de Guadalupano y corazón.

[00:05:28] Soy Esturier Leyes y actualmente un diplomado al igual que Jorge en la adicción a la pornografía, en la asociación de psicología del niño y el adolescente de España. Y además soy hombre felizmente casado con Viki Arana.

[00:05:52] Tenemos dos hermosijos y también nos dedicamos a dar charlas y conferencias sobre sexualidad, sobre novias, biónguón, pornografía y demás temas que hoy en día son digamos el foco de interés de jóvenes y adolescentes ¿no?

[00:06:12] La elpaderísimo gracias por acompañarnos, Miguel. Hoy en la sensibilidad de hablar de muchas diferentes cosas en algunas otras conferencias de saludos, del symposio se han tocado alguno que otro termita. Pero ahora vamos a enfocarnos un poco en la sexualidad, hasta el cual,

[00:06:31] digamos en la relación matrimonial verdad, para lo que fue creada verdad. Quisiera hacer que empezara a estúpil aplicándonos porque a veces pensamos de que no hay tantos tabuques como el que hemos al principio, hablamos de moral sexual católica y uf,

[00:06:47] reglas y mil mil mil no si no si no si no si no si no si no si no si no si. La tica no es un poco que es la sexualidad desde el punto real, punto de esta realmente católico que obviamente mucho era la luz

[00:07:01] a la luz dos dos dos dos dos dos dos dos dos dos dos dos dos dos, pero nos hacía una probabilidad sinamas para empezar sobre este tema para favor tú, sí claro que te has metido muchos dos temas.

[00:07:12] Digo ahorita como que tengo a lo que me ayudó mucho a mi entender la bondada y la grandesa de la sexualidad, fue hace unos años como una persona me contó que todas nuestras necesidades estaban llenas de placer, por ejemplo nos da muchísimo placer comer,

[00:07:33] nos da muchísimo placer dormir, nos da mucho placer hasta ir al baño, como cosas sí que son unos ideas más básicas y tienen ahí un placer para que para que las agamos nos atesadamos etcétera y sobrevivamos, entonces cuando hablamos de sexualidad

[00:07:52] nos fuimos preguntar porque Dios le puso a ir el placer. Si lo tiene todos nuestras necesidades porque en el sexo también está lleno de placer. Y no sólo un placer, digo se puede alcanzar un placer por sí mismo,

[00:08:11] por medio de la más subación o lo que sea, pero no un placer suficientemente grande para llenarte, ¿no? En realidad la experiencia es que cuando ese placer lo vives con otra persona cuando es fruto de una onión profunda entre dos personas que se entregan mutuamente

[00:08:31] ese placer es extremadamente más grande. Entonces como que el mismo Dios nos va revelando a través de nuestra experiencia con el mismo placer como lo vivimos para que es porque es y si hay bonda de en el o no, no sé si me explicó

[00:08:52] la idea que quiero transmitir. Pero el caso es que Dios lo puso ahí porque nos hizo para conectarnos, para entregarnos para que buscaramos la onión profunda, la onión mutuala, la intimidad. Y no sólo puso ahí para eso,

[00:09:10] lo puso ahí porque nos quería revelar algo. Y eso es cuando podemos hablar un poquito de la telelegia del cuerpo que a veces como que se satanisamos mucho. ¿Cómo se hace un pormete en la diosa en la sexualidad? A veces como que escandaliza mucho

[00:09:26] que podamos meter a Dios ahí pero si nos ponemos a pensar quién es Dios qué es Dios es una profunda comunión de amor una profunda comunión de amor donde el padre se da el hijo y el hijo se da el padre

[00:09:42] y que en esa onión mutuala más una nueva vida que se les queridos. Y si nos ponemos a pensar pues quién es el hombre como lo creo, y es bueno, lo creo mujer, lo creo hombre los dos capas de unirse de darse mutuamente

[00:09:59] y de ser tan explosiva a esa onión es a común en la amor que pueden crear una vida nueva. Entonces, y es bueno, el hombre y la mujer son imágenes en la jansal de Dios y en la bondada en su capacidad entrega en muchas cosas

[00:10:15] pero en la sensal asencia son imágenes en las jansas de Dios y pueden ser una profunda como una de amor que da vida que pueden ser don como unión y creador y es la grandeza, la sexualidad que no solo es un medio de placer

[00:10:33] no es eso sino que rebe la quién es Dios quién es el hombre para lo que fue creado y no sólo rebe la sino que esa tisface suceseos más profundos que es la profunda como una amor con exciente

[00:10:50] que fue para lo que fuimos creados entonces cuando lo vemos así decimos sexualidad bueno, mal algo penoso no, no, no es algo sagrado es algo grande esto misma esencia esto misma para que se te crearon no se te crearon para la sexualidad

[00:11:09] pero te crearon para una profunda como una profunda intimidada para volverse cada vez más uno con otra persona para darte y recibir para toda esa dinámica que la vive en el mismo Dios entonces lo para la sexualidad es que sí la puedes vivir

[00:11:25] con una versión pirata quedarte con la comida de la basura o la puedes vivir como una imagen es en la cansa de Dios que te llena de profundidad que te llena de plenitud que te llena de satisfacción que te hace satisfacción

[00:11:41] que necesidades más profunda y obviamente estos son procesos no, no es como que hay si lo quiero vivir ya estoy perfecto y matrimonistador, perfecto porque ya lo sé mi cabeza entonces ya lo voy a llevar a la práctica pues no, es el chiste del matrimonio

[00:11:55] que pojo a poco pueden ir encontrarme este camino para llegar a vivir lo que dio es mismo vive en su en el cielo en esa comunión profundizada de amor que vivía adiviar ahora está ahorita que es un poco de muchas cosas que explaticaba en los detalles

[00:12:18] pero gracias por darnos antes ahora el panorama con mucha claridad es que es marcelan hablamos bueno, y table o tema de placer habló pues de lo que es la sexualiera entre el plan de Dios verdad tú nos platicas que te hace enfoca mucho en el tema

[00:12:35] pues de castidad y bueno, obviamente es parte de tu testimonio y en la castidad y pensamos en rey las en nos y en más latiquenos un poquito sobre esta parte el tema de de la castidad antes del matrimonio verdad para realmente poder vivir plenamente el sacrament

[00:13:02] pero también después de la radio y en la castidad es una No, a person can start to eat only for a pleasure and not for the last one that is the nutrition. So, it will be a problem of adding food,

[00:13:46] of this, not to be fat, obesity or for the contrary, when the internet is in this, it is also in the volume and the non-reaction. So, it is important to understand that the pleasure is only for us to not forget, but the last one is another.

[00:14:03] So, how do I eat? If you are a pleasure to eat, but the last one is that I am a woman. Sometimes you have to eat things that do not like. Because it is not the most important pleasure that you provokes,

[00:14:14] but the nutrition that comes from the same way, in the view of the sexuality of God, the sexual act, the more pleasant pleasure, the more excellent, but its finality is not the pleasure that you provokes, which is very beautiful and that father is not that unity

[00:14:31] of which he was going to do, that you can get with that person at the end of the accounts. And also in some of you say situations, that is the most important thing to be able to have with that person.

[00:14:46] You do not know if all the sexual relations can have the same amount of pleasure, but that is not the end of the account, the important thing, but the love and the donation that is so much.

[00:14:57] And I suspect that I have asked for the question of the quality. I feel that there is something that I love about a question that they did not say to San Francisco of Asism, and today San Francisco is the enemy of love.

[00:15:13] And then San Francisco, I also have a deep question, I would say, the possession, the possession is the enemy of love. Because then, you leave it to the person as a person and you see how a object can be used to be violent, you are selfish, etc.

[00:15:34] And San Francisco, I don't know when you have just one definition of respect of the quality, how that truth is that the love of all of Auxo violence is selfish. And therefore if the quality of that truth that is the love of all Auxo violence is selfish,

[00:15:49] then the luxury will be precisely the opposite. And then when there is a clear virtue, because it is not free. And if something is something that our current current society is not true, it is not the freedom that must have to do it

[00:16:08] what is in my hand, but in reality it is a very malentendity and very busy because it is not free. This issue of freeing this is clear when you are not And I think that the people are free to finish and finish their passions,

[00:16:28] their visions, and the terrible thing is what the donation is. Because the end of the relationship is that you want all kinds of relationships can be divided into two types. They are relationships from donation. They are relationships from domination.

[00:16:47] And I want to be here with what I said in Francisco, of this possession, the possession is the most important enemy of love. And so, just in these relations, in which there is a true donation of one, for the other and not of domination,

[00:17:04] it's where the love is entered, and the quality has the finality of order. No, all of those are the effects that can be paid for the end, because, in the end, all of those are the effects.

[00:17:18] So, what do you think about the role of the most role of the role of the role? So, all of these effects, which is important, is the order of the love, so these two visions that we have, order them to love and to that,

[00:17:32] the quality of the relationships and how it's super magical, that we will allow us to do, because it will be that this very important that the body, the one that is actually that we have this tendency, because we can order it to come to this donation

[00:17:48] and not domination. And these relationships, they also have the same, if we don't have the problem of pornography, the masturbation, and all this theme that are so terrible and that both the theme and the joven, because the quality of the first love

[00:18:05] has to live with my own self. I have to be very sure of my own, but I can give it to someone, someone who can't donate. So, if I first do not buy that I am a donation and that I am a donation,

[00:18:20] I will definitely see it in the others. And if I do not understand what I am a donation was created by a donation and not to have or to steal my pleasure of others, because I am with my child, and that is where the importance

[00:18:34] of understanding the depth of this big tool and this big goal is to have the capacity to understand it with my own, to understand that I am a donation. And once I can understand it in my personal life, I will be able to understand the others.

[00:18:49] If I am a baby, and I see how a child is called a child, that goes to the blood of Christ, who has a whole world, a wonderful world, and that is a wonderful world, only the energy, and that, more respect to my body,

[00:19:01] and the way that I am, wonderful body, that I am, my soul, indisible, and that, more, I have a freedom and that freedom is to read the good. If I am going to be able to see it with others,

[00:19:15] and that is what allows me the life of the past. And this is five things I have to say, I am not the most characteristic anthropological person who, after all, will understand that we are going to see, what is the depth of the life?

[00:19:26] I am a child, what is the dignity, something that is the blood of Christ, I have a interior where you have to be born, for the love of God, and a body that must be respected, because that is a freedom that must be carried out, and for that,

[00:19:40] I will help myself to understand this, I will help the past. To understand it in me, to understand it, and others. Thank you very much for explaining it to me, of that way, because when we see the background and understand what there are behind it,

[00:19:57] because we can see it more, the rules, as the outside part and part, that is, the positive, the form or the punitive, truth, simply the law, and truth, and we can't see all this, that we have to explain, and take it, as a signified truth.

[00:20:17] Today, but following Jorge from the part, I will tell you, well, Marcela and Ferran, in fact, there are very important points of nation, domination, placer, also if necessary, and then the masturbation and pornography, that is that Miguel and you could have a lot of respect, now, Marcela, Marcela,

[00:20:37] the law of how affects the jóvenes, that is, Marcela and Ferruro, think about your post, also the not only young people, in truth and, and sometimes more, traditionally, for the brothers, we have access to the truth, and well, with pornography, in the literal way,

[00:20:53] in the song of a click, we play a little of this truth, in the line, in the line of what, because of the things that are not only what they have, how you also affect us, we really see our way of seeing the sexuality

[00:21:09] and especially to live the truth, in the marriage, in different serials, truth, you know, well, friends, people are more big, truth, in the WhatsApp group, like circulate everywhere, and, etc. etc., and the part of the story, which, also, is, Marcela, we talk a little bit about that,

[00:21:26] to feel the truth, and to live in the most of the topic of sexuality, and with my age, inside the marriage. Totally, right? Well, we can put a cat here, Fernando and Marcela, what do you see? I have been feeling, uh, linked to what, what,

[00:21:44] say, because here in the book, well, this also understands that we are sexuality, right? So, all my sexuality is sexuality, and in this sense, there is how to do this different important thing, inside sexuality and in reality, because this topic of pornography has been very much

[00:22:09] with the sexuality. Now, there is a lot of things that are studies that have not been opened, of the consequences that have the consumption of pornography in our sexuality and, therefore, we take a lot of time to the marriage. Inside, there is always a question,

[00:22:35] there is no Jorge, truth is that it does not happen, it does not happen, it does not happen, it does not happen, it does not happen because also, this will come a little conflict, today, my boyfriend, pornography, truth is that it does not happen, well, first,

[00:22:51] in the 1930s, for 100, the men, we have been exposed before the 18th century, in a recent, pornography, so if we want to find our marriage, a man who has never been exposed, because, there are only the children, the difficult points, so, that there is a need to purify

[00:23:11] this part, to enter this, because, because, because, because, 80% of the most seen scenes, they have the agency of hernery. Right? perpetuate, for the man, this kind of concept, as I live in my sexuality, my mentality, the voice of the mother, or the porn, or the cold,

[00:23:42] It's a very important step for many of how to live a sexual relationship in the matrimonial way. We ask the master of the religious organs, the violence, the sexual relationship as we live in the rest and that's what we want to replicate here.

[00:24:01] So, with one's pornography, our sexuality is affected because it's sexuality. And this is not the matrimonial way. We take ideas, equivocadas, as we live in this, that the state of the nation has called. And it's a very different thing.

[00:24:23] It's between the one that is called this arm in the sexual relationship, the matrimonial way. There's a very unique term, and I like it a lot, which is especially when When the anunciation, which he said, had no known夸varon. Yes. And many of them did not.

[00:24:47] Of course not. Of course not. But the term no known and no recorded. I have to see with no known when all my dimensions of my people can go to the spirit of the New Testament. So the pornography that I am cooking

[00:25:06] is that this will not be the other But it was a good thing, in the body, with my soul, with my spirit. I don't know what makes me feel like the relationship is sexual and immodious. Why? Because the pornography puts the focus on the physical, on the pleasure.

[00:25:22] And again, we start to want to say what they say in the audience. The film or the media. Right? And also, the difference between this data is not reproducing the ceremonial reality of the monstros of the pornography. It is a study that, as I told you,

[00:25:46] I was playing the University of California, where they analyzed the couple, and the couple who were not born in pornography. The ones who were born, were 300% of the infidelity. So, this is all this preemble that we are not offering and others.

[00:26:08] There is to see how we start to purify because the reality is that the consumption of pornography is exposed in more than 40. It has a very pornographic power. And it is possible also in its cellar, it is 40. And it is not learning from there how to do it.

[00:26:30] It is also possible because the women are also consuming. Yes, each time. Yes, yes, yes. No, no, it is not. But yes, there is a historical article that says that, about 25 years of age, the average is consuming more than women

[00:26:52] And the Mexicans and the Mexicans are the top 3 of the most consummated for no-rafis. So, there's time for a. Thank you very much. Sorry, I'm not a little bit of a loss on these other Jorge. It's not the word, the word, but yes, it's actually actually actually actually,

[00:27:16] important when you talk about the rest of the time before entering other topics of sexuality that now is the idea of ​​the world, and it is already well talking about this unity, Marcelo and Fair truth and the different things,

[00:27:32] because of the aspect and the topic for a long time alone as a pleasure, what we can say is very easy, truth, as your human, truth, and if the man is in the sense of race, truth,

[00:27:45] and also, for the other side, because in the part of the real reality, or to just see the part of sexuality as a really creation, like that, not the church, and they were making a lot of this part, right?

[00:27:59] And if you're going to practice a little about these two aspects that we started to see from a manoeuvre, but then especially, the second one is very much not in all what you want to say is this part of the negative aspect that they call it and the

[00:28:12] creative, right? That it is not the most creative as suddenly, because we want to know that the church is in the control of the pleasure and the only way to have it, or for the other

[00:28:24] side, we just want to be a little bit of sexuality, as what should be inside the marriage of the manoeuvre. Yes, if I allow myself to make a small, in order to enrich what I have commented on, please, the quality that is a very rich and very

[00:28:45] very beautiful, talk about the quality more, as a virtue, roughly affirmative, not to the love, a saying in words of Saint Augustine, the virtue of the defined as love, right? All that I do is that I think it is a role of fruits and comes to its

[00:29:13] magnitude in love. And then the quality is known, profoundly affirmative, towards love. And not simply as the world calls us, the painter, which is the quality of a character, characterized as the abstention of the natural trait, right?

[00:29:34] That is the pride of the quality, the quality, the end of the quality is the love that creates, that brings the nature of the two beings that are loved. And not the quality as a synonym of virginity, because a person lives in order not to be cast.

[00:29:55] That is, I mean, a woman can not have sex, by my side, to embrace it, but can be seen by geography. So you can be entering that disorder in your eyes and not have sex.

[00:30:10] And for him, I already said, well, I am virgen, I am cuidando o que se yo no and not be cast. The quality is a virtue that has, as I said, you would say, Maria

[00:30:22] Escribe, Valavier, the young man of love in which he is in the life or what is the location of a person? You can be a sister, a sister, a man, a man, a husband or a husband. And in the marriage, the quality is living, although there is

[00:30:39] an intimidation that has a way to support her. Why? Because I love my woman in her totality. I do not love love or and let her suffer and let her suffer her fertility. So I use condon or I ask you to use positive pills because

[00:30:59] I do not love her from her fertility and I do not want to have children. So that is why I use preservatives. So that is not a marriage or case. To love her, to love her, to love her in totality, in the

[00:31:16] きńten, in the plan ay you in your pain and that is when she and she is constantly Evidently don't taste the pasts. No, not the quality is not a bad plan. It is a lot of story when that is a donation

[00:31:32] Plene is a feeling that ab신 the love, in what we thought we did, and we had to understand what That was a great effort. And in the... I'm going to ask you, I mean, here the topic where San Juan Pablo II think that gave an ex-cell

[00:32:01] a sublime to what is the subject of sexuality with the constitution of the body? It was written the Puri Tannismo for the 50 years or previous years, the 50th of April, the Pumano bodies are sexualized. They have called it the love. So what the Puri Tannismo was about,

[00:32:30] the Pumano body, practically, product of Satan, because in the carnivore it was the peccado, because the carnivore was the peccado. And so the purtanism was practically to rejuice everything that was Carnal. And in that, with the sex, the genitals came.

[00:32:55] And so, it comes to a very dear person called Hugh Hearner with many infectious care in his children. And I believe in the sex, as a gasp and a transitive, a transitive, and so, that's where the purtanism is born and born and born. And in the sexual revolution,

[00:33:23] and then the consequences, we know today's day, of this sexual revolution. So it's a second, with a device, with an inspiration that could only come from God's will. To rejuice the purtanism, where they say, no, it's not the human body. Because the one who created it,

[00:33:45] the son, the love, the soul, the God, and the body, there is to understand it, there is to know it, there is to give it the film for which it was created. In this case, not so much was a pro-creative, it was a second,

[00:34:02] the victims of the curse, it's a second and a second, because the couple would say, no, well, they don't have the right to have it. No, nothing happens. It can be a second, more than a second, because it's a second, which is a death where,

[00:34:16] in which they never get to you, with your wife, with your husband, who has never been, because they already donated it in the planet, and can be found, can be found, to other people, in this case, even adopting a man who wants to

[00:34:33] figure out the paternal and maternal power and who doesn't have the opportunity to have it. So, that's the wonderful way of sexuality, from the theological body, that, well, here, our expert in the subject, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, we could have this subject from the theological body,

[00:34:56] but that's what the living body, is, in the second, the sexual attitude, no, a true and authentic beauty, the human body, the sexuality. Thank you, Miguel. And, on this part of the past, in several moments, something similar to the word, the same thing I said,

[00:35:16] and I said, of course, the capitalism in the 2332, how the sexuality of the sexual rights of the people, but we have not been doing it in the end the sexuality of the sexual act between man and woman, we are going to be doing it,

[00:35:33] because we can talk about everything, truthfully. And, much later, on top of it, we are going to try to reach something more, we are walking to the practice for us, who was a science scientist and not sure if they were going to be these people,

[00:35:51] they have many courses, podcasts, videos, many things to be able to reach more. But, in the relationship, let's say, the difference between man and woman, it's very clear, right? I don't want to enter such in these differences, but if you don't think about sexual rights, we say,

[00:36:15] that the sexual rights are going to be the difference of what is not true, as man, and how man also looks at sexual rights and also how woman is also the type of the distribution of the woman who is all you have to use. So, in a way,

[00:36:37] about this, a little bit for to have a lot of things, and that's why we are talking about what is going to happen in a way as a way. Yes, obviously, I think there are some experience in the same view that you have sexual rights, how you are

[00:37:04] and how you are talking about how you are so pornography, that's why I think all of this I think I think a lot of people and in the way that can come to see sexual rights in your mother's life. I can say more than I think

[00:37:24] from the same that you are as you are and how you are living in the same and how you are accountable. But I think that everyone and of the same time, or I think around the same time, and that time, and that time, and that and that that

[00:37:57] time, that we are told that we don't have to expo. And so, that in some sense it was very innocent. So we're going to extract it. And now we're going to get to live it. Well, you don't have to prioritize it a little bit

[00:38:17] and you don't have to prioritize it a little bit. So in this process, you can prioritize it and you can't prioritize it. You can enter the unconscious between fear, between awareness. So you can enter both feelings, emotions, humans that can also come from their own depths,

[00:38:43] of what they've seen, what they've seen in their parents, of an experience of abandonment, of rejection, and so on. It's so profound to be a human that is how it's difficult to put it over. But influence many things. So in this process, obviously, enter a lot of frustration

[00:39:09] and joy. I'm not living like painting the movies. Or as you can see, I paint the pornography. Because the truth is that the images that are in the series, open in the television, in the same pornography that many people are exposed are totally irrelevant.

[00:39:29] That's not what's in the material. The woman never does it like that. The man doesn't have it like that. No, that's not true. That's a real story. So you're already in the material world, thinking that you're going to live in a world sexual, incredible and like that.

[00:39:47] Like that it's not so easy, like that it's difficult, like that we don't remember how we don't even think it's not like that we don't know how to do it. I'm frustrated and I can't I can't do it without a job, I would say, like painting other people.

[00:40:03] So there's a lot of idea of what is the experience of sexuality that is ideal for our head. There's no need to be with reality. So you can see a lot of frustration and think that there's something bad when our head is with the experience of sexuality.

[00:40:23] When it's a change, it will learn to know each other. To learn to respect each other. That process of storytelling, to learn to get out of it, that can be the same as the times. The man can do it and the woman else has to be like that.

[00:40:39] It takes time. It takes time. You need to learn to trust in the other and you need to learn to trust in yourself. You have to be healthy. You have to be very serious. The same thing happened when we were little. And also, the truth is that

[00:41:00] when we talked about this, we were talking about the pleasure. We each see more in my relationship than when you look at the pleasure of the pleasure or not in the intimacy and then they go to the intimacy. They go to the intimacy

[00:41:16] and as I said, it's not that bad. But it has to be a deep, deep, deep of the union, of the couple, of the donation. And this union is a donation. It's time with time. So I can tell you the relationship

[00:41:34] that I had the first day with my husband and I don't have anything to see with them. Why? Because there is a process of the demographic problem that I have to take advantage of the trust in the other. I don't feel as much in the pleasure

[00:41:55] because sometimes it's a waste of the bond. I don't want to, I want you to enjoy it. I want to see you, I want you to be happy. I want you to also be happy and look at the intimacy. So you seem like,

[00:42:10] there is no way I'm saying that. I don't think so. I think in my, but the truth is that you are entering as much as you can to achieve a certain pleasure. That is what you are looking for, the most important thing in the world of the person.

[00:42:26] And and that's it. That's what you are going to do. And not just do it. And not just do it. And not just do it. And then you want to do something new. And then you want to do it. So maybe we will put this thing

[00:42:38] or another game. What does it mean to be able to do to think what you are looking for that is the depth of intimacy with your partner. That union, that connection, depth. Well, if you are looking for things that you are looking for.

[00:42:53] So you start to be very satisfactory. And not even realize. And not even realize. And not realize. And it's the other person. And the other is always that it's that it's that it's that it's not your problem. No. But all because really if you are looking for things

[00:43:08] that we are looking for in the background. So I'm sorry. I can tell you this. Obviously. Yes. Yes. In that line, I have to thank them because I think something that I have to ask a lot of questions for the ones that are going to be

[00:43:25] the one that is still there. It's the subject of compatibility. Sexuality. I'm not saying. And so we are so famous at our time. Today we are going to try to live together because in reality there is also a and if we are sexually compatible. I'm not saying that.

[00:43:45] What does it mean to do? And not because this compatibility is not as in the first encounter with a child to be able to do it all or not, that's something that is built and to share precisely the knowledge, the depth of the dialogue. Yes.

[00:44:08] And it will always be to say for those who are going to. And there are those who are going to hear that. Here they are. There are some. And I'm going to say that. And it's the first time. It's not.

[00:44:20] I think in 90% of the cases that the first is a couple. I'm going to see the children. Why? Because we know in a place where. It's the kind of knowledge. And it's not just the terms with the knowledge. It's. My stereo. I'm going to explore. A disorder.

[00:44:43] I mean, that God will not reach the other person. But in the sense of that. That's why we are going to read the expectations of what is the compatibility. We are compatible with the name. It's hard. If there is no evidence, I'm going to read this.

[00:45:02] And this is not how. Well, I'm going to read it. If you want to hear me. As a comment, as a Baron, as a Baron, ex-adict on the pornography. Yes, there is that. The first communication communication. No, with your wife. Your wife. To start by learning. Let's say.

[00:45:27] In the movie, the chaffa. With the one who has seen your life. An ex-adict on the pornography. No? As I said, the synchaphix. The pornography. The synchaphix. That is the film, the chaffa of synchaphix that you've seen. Where there are genitals, there are many men,

[00:45:48] there are wonderful members of great-grandmother, perfect body. Very defined. That's why, first, start with the eye. So, to learn to create a practically a a borrado de cerebro, it is easy but you can, but if with the time you have to

[00:46:07] learn that sexuality is another bullet, it is not what it looks like in the screen, it is not what you listen to, but if you do not know me first, I have the communication,

[00:46:23] even in the news, talk about these topics in the news so that when you get those notes, those moments of intimacy with your wife, yes, they will come evidently frustrations, even there I have said that I do not have the

[00:46:41] more if I have the pornography, I will see frustrations because we are imperfect, even in the sex, in the sexuality we are imperfect, then there is that understand it like this and try to, that your sexuality, your intimacy with your wife

[00:46:57] with your wife, it is the news, not the one who even recommend or what you see in the TV, there is no justice in the past but I have been in the amount of couples of married recipes that they recommend to see pornography to understand the

[00:47:17] call of passion and to learn how to satisfy your wife, your wife, you have no fear, fear, fear, fear that seeing pornography, God, you are already being married with your wife, then it is simply to understand that

[00:47:34] your intimacy is imperfect, human and you do not have to follow any patron, it is established by the world and then you will see frustrations as you are already going to see frustrations, go see of events and processes of the pornification, yes, as I said, but

[00:47:59] we are going to use the new things and create for all that we are also I am a test of it or if it can be, but it is going to take a violent process, hard and perhaps with some people with some

[00:48:16] other people, but you can even get that second virginity with your wife and this is connected with what is said, the sea is the closed of the city, I say to the best, listen and say, you are entering a lot of

[00:48:32] pornography, no, it simply has ideas about how to live sexuality in the marriage and that is not the pornography or any other point, but the other ideas also is, now yes, we are already married, we were married, and now, at the time, to do this,

[00:48:50] I have to put it in the same way, and it is a idea, also very read the reality and that is why the city takes a fundamental purpose in the sense of a creative fidelity in love, right? Today, as I have been thinking and there is no

[00:49:10] thing to do, sometimes it is also happening, not to stop, to the best and spend a week, right? Today, they come to the children, change dynamics, they come in many things that in the real life of a marriage, not all the time, right? Now, that is not leaving

[00:49:31] the other extreme, it is important in the relationship, it is important, it is in the very important, it is the consumption of the marriage, it is important that many marriage, that are not the greatest, yes, they can even live a process of

[00:49:48] inequality, because it is something central, this entreg, but later something that all of them are there and that is why we need to find this balance, by the way, with our couple, right? So, for that, it is very important to communicate

[00:50:08] about these topics, it is a topic that I think a lot of more people talk about, a lot of learning, the best, a lot of good news, but it is important to communicate today, which is your minimum that you would like, the week, which is your maximum, which

[00:50:24] is your maximum, which is the point of view, we come, what you like in the August, in which moment you feel like that you have your space or that you would like to do more, so it is

[00:50:37] that really a topic that you have to talk, that we have to look at the truth, it is important to speak about communication, the most important, and more well, because it is very point, which was two, three things, not just these

[00:50:53] topics, sexuality, you don't know how it is, what would you like, to be able to talk about, at the moment or at the position, or at the most things, but it is worth it, because sometimes it is like how it was to be in that moment, in the

[00:51:08] previous, sexual, or during, right? Talking about that, well, it is worth it with the feeling, right? It is not expected, it is with the quality, right? Although it is something very simple, well, because it is the first

[00:51:21] step in this communication, I would say, it was the topic of, of, of, perspective and more, but it is a little bit more interesting, saying and also the name, how it is, some friends, I want to say that, because there I told you that it was so difficult,

[00:51:36] I mean, we are doing it all the way, very well, well, and as you said, we are seeing it, but not so much, and I really want to really Jorge and Miguel in different aspects, right? And so

[00:51:49] part for a side, as if you were to watch the part, because we are better, because we are more unified, I don't know what to talk about, I have been using it for a long time, so much for the other side, right?

[00:51:59] As the subject, the topic of the subject, right? Miguel, over this, practically not a little bit, right? Because we are going to have to come to the end of this, this panel, sorry, the next conference, but but the way we have seen you, how can we change,

[00:52:13] despite it, and very practically change the chip, right? And it has been put on, for another word, maybe a little more general, so that the two together, we are going to be with Marcelo and Ferran, these topics, but what is the first step?

[00:52:28] I am seeing this, really, okay? Yes, definitely, I have made it in the form that I see and I live my sexuality in the marriage. What can I do with what I am thinking to change the chip Miguel? I think, mainly, I have already commented,

[00:52:47] the communication of the center, the center, the open book, the book of expectations, the book, how do you do that? Because the best thing, if we see the number in the theory, okay? Yes, because as a guy, with the sound, but because it is not

[00:53:04] almost there, right? You already have also a lot of many things that have been put on the path and today I have seen the number, but I do not know how to do it, how do I do it, so that this is the example,

[00:53:20] there is a really good tool that my wife and I have not been to do very concrete, the five languages of love from Garich Atman, if you speak Chinese and I, Spain, we have to learn to speak Chinese to know to handle it.

[00:53:45] So simple, it's a very practical tool for that it's a book that would recommend that the one in the 90s and so on. And if not in the morning, it never ends. And that's a very practical way of learning how to communicate with your wife,

[00:54:05] with your wife, with your boyfriend, even with your sister, with your brother, with your cousin, with your dad, in fin. That's to learn from the person through their language, from the language of her, not from the study. So obviously, the other person

[00:54:20] will also learn to communicate with your language. You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, and you know, you know, I would say, they are just, you know, having a conversation about topics, Tavus, about topics and endocrates that,

[00:54:59] in the mentally, you know, you know, and, well, not in my case. question is of sexuality, it's not so difficult, it's not the color, the body says it's like I say it really can be done if it starts working in a basic

[00:55:21] basic communication, basic focus with your partner so that after any topic is broken or broken, I don't know why I started working in that basic communication I'm going to see how it's done if you have it, I'm going to ask you something more

[00:55:42] about it, I'll ask you directly, I'm going to talk a bit about this, I think there is a lot of knowledge also of how the sexuality and how the man sometimes things that are of women and women that are personal, so it's

[00:56:04] very important to inform us, read, look for help, to get a understanding of what the other lives and why the life, you know for example, it's not that women don't want to, it's that the hormonal development is

[00:56:20] that the depression is that now you are in the opposite of certain reasons, that the man doesn't understand it, simply because we are two people completely different and not only two people, but two generous people, very different. So for that I want

[00:56:38] to recommend to the book that it calls what it needs, what it needs, it's a book very sensitive to read and there is a very practical book described as the name, how the woman is, what are the needs of them, what are the things that

[00:56:54] they are and sincerely help them a lot to understand and share with your partner for the same for not, well, it's not possible to do something better than maybe not to give and how to tell that medium point of when we understand

[00:57:10] when we are in practice alone with the other, sometimes even the same relationship is actually the solid state of that expression of that expression, much more. to the right to say this from Donation and not to my nation, but it is also the

[00:57:51] theme. So it's my first and the same, it's sexual and so far now the that they are also seeing that they have not been married or that they are accompanying them, which has many who accompany truth in these programs of

[00:58:06] New Year, I've lived in the marriage, which in particular is different from truth, But I would like to talk about the practicality of the fact that I have been comparing and talking about many of the past and also the company personally

[00:58:20] in this topic. What can we start doing? Or what can we start doing? To one, we can change the attitude of the sexuality before the marriage that can be done. And what can we start talking with my girlfriend, with a new reality in these topics?

[00:58:41] What do you think is more fun and also how much you can react to something as soon as you can. I would like to thank you very much for your participation in the panel. I think it is very important for the series that the director said to you,

[00:58:53] when you go to the marriage. I am very grateful to the director, and how very friendly I am because I am not married. So... I think it's very important for me to understand that I'm just a married person. You can share your experience.

[00:59:18] There are also very important things to learn that are being exposed. Because if you do a company in other matrimons, but you have never recovered in this because you have company in a matrimonial way. I think you can help a lot. I think you can help a lot.

[00:59:35] So I think it's important to see who they are dedicating these topics, how they are not in the case of faith and the people who are already having a path that lives their ministry as matrimonial. I think it's something very enriching

[00:59:50] for these topics because they give you a lot of light to those who are already in the situation. Now what I've seen and also personally I've been experiencing when the person doesn't have a clear way to get married, I've already said that, but they were

[01:00:06] for the same reason and my ancient instinct. But if you think that's a lie that matrimonial is a vocation to go to the sky and you see how a man for certain sexual activities or because he can't do more with the sexual impulsive

[01:00:22] or not, but he's alone or someone else can and he can't do it. So the first thing I'm very important to to understand that if you've called it in life is the vocation of matrimonial, it's because it's a call to go to the sky

[01:00:38] and contemplate the rest of the term. And that must be the objective of each thing that you have once you've been married as we do for the two of us, we'll go to the sky. So I think many times you can fall in the problem

[01:00:55] that many young men or many couple of the cities that you want in which they're married if they're married to the reasons that you're focused on to start. They're not married because they want to identify the matrimonial but for others, and that's when it's expected of the reality,

[01:01:15] because the reality is worth and then when you're there and you're expecting to have sex forever and that you're going to be like how the world is going through but they come to the places and all the situations that Jorge, Miguel, who were sharing

[01:01:33] because of the fact that they're married and they're going to have a frustration and this is what I wanted. So we're going to work. But it's not a love, the love has been over. People decide to leave it, but it's not a love,

[01:01:50] but now we're all going to all go to the world, we're all going to the world because we're not going to be happy and my impulse and my selfishness will also come to the world to make love and to to the world. So, someone can buy me

[01:02:03] and I can finish thinking I'm very enamored but in reality no, no, it's the end of the 20th century that I'm going to love and I have to have a very personal relationship with God. San Augustine has a wonderful phrase that the end of the video

[01:02:21] was based on the video. So, I said, first of all, I love to love things and the things and the creatures and the creation we love, but for love. And if that part doesn't have to be clear, I can reach and go to the person

[01:02:39] with whom I'm at the same at the same time, at the same and then, as a need to love, to God, to make my heart have a basis and not to give me the name of God and only God can give me the name

[01:02:52] because we also like to say, we were created for God and we will not even think that we are tired. If that's it, I don't let it go with God I'm going to go with what is it because we can't give it to God and many times

[01:03:05] in that place we put the angel or put the night or we put the friend or we put my work because at the end of how much I have I have this need. Or we put the sex or we put the sex that many people

[01:03:19] are putting this part of sexual plays as their God. Because in the end you have this angel not this, it's very clear. All men who touch the door and look at it, looking at God are the most important of the world. So, what important is that

[01:03:36] when even being in the news or being the one who would like to be a wonderful book in which you have to learn to know and do the things that you have to look at and find out what you can do to be able to be

[01:03:53] to be able to be a person who has not been because if you don't know if that's the end of what you will generate to each other and that's not the father. So, what better than I learned to recognize what my son is to return

[01:04:14] to get to the God that he is the one who makes a vision to the pornography and to be a casual, a miracle that has happened a situation that's a lie and that I need to have a vision completely transformed and not only the sexuality but the same

[01:04:37] or the same I will change the perspective that I have to to generate a lie to be able to have to be able to have to understand that I am a man for the other. So, it's important to be able to be able to have a vision

[01:05:04] to be a woman or a woman for the children or simply to be able to be able to have a problem a very severe problem because we are more than half and that will generate a lot more questions that I have to bring to you. Thank you, Marcela.

[01:05:32] I will be able to be able to have a vision for the children and the same sexuality and the same sexuality but we will not be able to be able to be able to be able to live and to be able to be able to be able

[01:06:01] to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to have to be able to be able to enjoy to enjoy the process as well that have this school between the two microwaving

[01:06:30] a lot of experience as a way to be able to walk. If you have this probability, then you will see this sexuality in the marriage, what do you consider you can do to walk like this? Yes. I think I have 1st thing

[01:06:52] that I could say, but I do not think you will be able to help me with a psychologist. So if you don't refer to it, ask someone, a woman, a certain amount of work. What has happened in my experience that I've been a little bit like I've lived,

[01:07:09] that I've been doing. I'm not saying anything about it. I don't know. Some basic things like I can use an lubricant. Or like... Some things... Some... ...well... ...well... ...well... ...well... ...well... ...well... ...well... ...well... ...well... What was the reason for that? What did I refer to?

[01:07:47] This was the greatest, and I don't know! I don't ask anyone to say you're the ones who release Sioux, to prove this or something else, to live experience that is the best people with controllers like me. They give you a security to say, and I'm happy.

[01:08:10] I don't know how to do it. I don't know if I'll go out or not. I don't work. I don't know how I'll react. So, I just explain a lot of people who have to learn to jump and relax. And more than the sexual relation,

[01:08:26] I feel that it's more not to think that it's a thing. Because for me, not to like things like that. I mean, what will happen in one, two, and three. And the sexualities of being able to get this between you is not to think about what is necessary.

[01:08:53] To relax, to help us. To not be like the typical wife, not here, not here. With the husband and not really I'm with the person who told me for all life. I'm in a environment of trust. The one who sees me, the one who wants my happiness.

[01:09:13] The one who wants my happiness. And the truth is that not even the most involved in those moments. The lady told me to help us to get back and to receive another with all the people with all what is what I want to give and not saying

[01:09:34] how it has to get to me and not leaving the one who is to get back to accept the person with all that comes with all of their happiness. And I think that's a lot of that's to learn to get back to be perfectly

[01:09:52] and to put the hands of the God for me to teach you the path to reach that depth of the path. What we look in the background. There. The other is the one who is in my life. A year and a year in my life. I want to

[01:10:22] thank you for this. I'm sorry everything I said. I'm sorry because I've never seen the creatures of the creatures. But I don't know what I don't know how many of the resources of the faith and their ways to be particular or to ask any of the people.

[01:10:45] We are still running out of the things. Now you talk about the things that we have from the other side. We would normally say that we are with this kind of and to be able to be able to be able to be able to you when something ả

[01:11:32] I have many with many pantalones, they do not use pantalones in that time, but I think that can inspire a lot to take a decision everyday. There are secrets, right? And a lot has to be seen as now that we have talked about

[01:11:56] that we are, because you are sexually, we are all queer, we are a little bit scared to work like men. I love a lot of resources that surely will be known to us,

[01:12:08] of exodus, naïri, true, it is a network of queer, gender and spirit, but men, if you see your own body, you see your identity and you see your spirit, you see what you see, my spirit, so this is also how men look, we look

[01:12:23] much like I said, but it is closed. Serduaños de nosotros. Yes, we cannot give our family a pedazos de nosotros, pedazos de nuestra masculinidad, no? We need more and more now, but that never, and for that the masculinidad has been

[01:12:41] so critical, yes, because we need to reinvent ourselves as barones, right? And well, better have a big example of who has been paid, that is, as the good thing is, I think that, for there we can start a little bit, this network has to be with

[01:13:01] much, work my body, my soul, my spirit, as one thing, to give me, to give me my boss, my young man. We have the respect and also to three chords, well, we do not read as much as the

[01:13:28] routine, well, there are no bars, we also put it, we have it, we have a network that has been a bit exaggerated, it was down, you can hear it, too, very short, to read it for you, 7 different points or characteristics

[01:13:41] that invite us to the father of the musician, not only reflect on us, but also as you said, you also serve us, right? And we have a great example. And well, also in the context of the X-S-9D, we also practice

[01:13:54] practicing a little bit about these topics about the cell, the way it really is, what it means and how to do it in a community as now. Thanks for your time, we have to run the next conference, Marcelo,

[01:14:05] Jorge Miguel, we could say goodbye to the night, I hope you tell us, you know, we only talk to you with this program and the to continue consuming more. Well, well, I'll call it in the end. But please, that's not true. No, that's not true.

[01:14:23] But for those of each of us who had been doing what we're doing, I mean, your God, let's run the next conference. Thank you very much for your understanding. In this panel.